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with president barack obama to raise rates on the rich that extend tax cuts for income below $250,000. with congress scrambling to avert the series of tax inincreasing and spending cuts due to cut in, should approve a deal ensuring that $98% of americans do not suffer a tax increase that endangers the economic recovery. that's from the national journal this morning. this is from the hill newspaper. that's where you lose us because we want to strengthen these programs, not let them die on the vine. again, that's from "the hill" newspaper. dixie is a republican in clinton, mississippi. what do you think? caller: good morning and thank you for taking my call. i think it is a surprise to me, and i cannot help but wonder why all the talk about increasing taxes, making cuts, and we need cuts, why the welfare is never addressed. we have people who are living like millionaires from welfare. they get free food, they get free housing, they get free schooling, they get -- the children get lunches two times a day at school. and they get all kind of benefits, but nothing is ever said about cut
i understand. are you saying then forp r purposes, that they should give in to obama on the tax rate. >> no exactly -- well, yeah, i guess i am. >> you're saying capitulate to obama -- we don't have a revenue problem, ann. >> we lost the election, sean. >> well, the fact is, sean, we do have a revenue problem. 15% of gdp going to revenue. republicans on the right should at least pay for what they spend on. at least pay for the guns and ammo. the louisiana governor bobby jindal wants to make -- he's not blind to reality. he writes in today's politico, any reading of the headlines over the past week indicates that republicans are fighting to protect the rich and cut benefits for seniors. it may be possible to have worse political positioning than that, but i'm not so sure how. your thoughts, chris. do you conform to the thinking here of our smartest possible colleague here, chuck, that this is something that the president realizes is a true cliff, you don't want to go over it, and he will recognize a good deal if he see it is before christmas and take it? >> sure. yes, i do agree with
to higher tax rates for the highest bracket, do it quickly, and, then, president obama would be the one who is refusing it because he is throwing in all sorts of extra things like total executive branch control of the debt limit. >>neil: who came up with the $50 billion in new surplus spending in the middle of this? come on! >>guest: the question, it is an interesting offer, kind of an office that the president gave yesterday which was call it disrespectful, a disrespectful offer and the question is, are republicans going to take it personally and get mad about it? or will they say, well, this is the early stage. we are standing around and snorting and we will get down to serious stuff. but a lot of republicans were actually insulted by what the president did yesterday. >>neil: byron, good talking to you in washington, dc. not too far from where byron is sitting speaker boehner declaring a stalemate in the talks. can it be broken? and now to a washington congresswoman in her first interview since being elected. contrary to what you have been told there are women in powerful positions in con
rates on the top 2%. president obama has been very clear, he was all the way through the campaign that he would not give in on that. so that's i think what's important now. republicans don't like a lot of what was in the white house's opening offer. they dictate the $50 billion stimulus that was in the offer as a slap in the face. some of these little things we'll see taken out of file deal. >> to that point here's john boehner talking about when he saw that opening offer. >> i was flabbergasted. i looked at him and said you can't be serious. i just never seen anything like it. you know, we got seven weeks between election day and the end the year. and three of those weeks have been wasted with this nonsense. >> okay. >> it's clear he's not pleased from his ha. is the president in danger of going too far? >> no. i think that everyone is amazed that president obama is pursuing an absolutely normal approach to negotiation. people over the last two years got so accustomed to his strategy of almost preemptive concession, you know, you don't like this, i'll give you more. i'll give you
they should join president obama to extend the tax rates for the highest income earners the law professor john buckley looks at the history of the tax, plus your e-mails, phone calls, and tweets. in a few moments, a forum on energy security. in a little less than an hour and a half, 20 years since russia and the u.s. agreed to secure and nuclear weapons in the former soviet states, and a look at proposals but could be negotiations over the fiscal cliff. >> we are at the new york state museum. this is dedicated to the history of september 11 and the attacks at the world trade center. we have established the gallery to tell the story of the first moments of the attack using photographs from the world trade center site. there is a piece of steel. we put it in a place where the public can come and touch it. it gives a tangible experience. this is a piece of steel from the north towers. this is a dramatically bent piece of steel. this is within 10 floors of the impact, and you can see the openings with this piece of metal strips that would have held aluminum. every piece of steel marks which side o
bothers small people most? the rating creases that president obama and the democrats want? don't increase rates that cap deductions so people will pay more than what the republicans want or is it spending cuts from government? which of those three is the toughest? >> the most important issue is what the tax rates are going to be. all good business people make decisions on after-tax returns with you are looking at a worker you are going to hire or a new piece of equipment or expanding a business you look at the after-tax returns, that goes down as tax rate marginal tax rates go up. that is the big issue. dennis: if my marginal tax rate stays the same but i can't hire tax bill because they kept my deductions aren't i still going to not bought a welding torch i was going to buy? >> that may be. you made me pick one out of three. dennis: the thing we are worried about, there are things you say they can do. they should wait on spending but tell us about changing their tax filing status. >> one of those things we are going to see is a big difference between the personal marginal tax rates and t
. >>> president obama's expected to travel to detroit on monday to push his proposal for raising tax rates on the wealthiest americans. the trip is part of his effort to get republicans to drop their opposition to increasing rates on the top 2%. meanwhile, house speaker john boehner challenged the president today to come up with a plan that can pass both houses of congress. >>> a new york man accused of shoving a stranger in front of a subway train is now charged with murder. the case has horrified people all over the world. >> the man who snapped a photo of the victim seconds before he was killed is defending himself. nbc's chris clackum explains why the photographer says he couldn't help the victim. >> reporter: the man new york city police took into custody tuesday made his first court appearance wednesday. 30-year-old davis is charged with second-degree murder. and he's believed to be the man on the right arguing with another man before pushing him into the path of an oncoming subway train monday. >> it was horrifying. it was terrible. >> reporter: but there's also outrage over the "ne
.5% or so top rate that president obama wants to return to which we paid under clinton is very, very popular. republicans should ought not fall on that sword. the democrats are ed e ready to endorse 98% of the hated bush tax cuts. i would call that a win and toss the other 2% overboard. >> there's also a lot of talk here in washington, has been for a couple weeks about false confidence. the false confidence that happened at the end of the election there. the mitt romney people pretty much told a lot of us they were confident it was going to be a long night and that they would win. i want to read you something from the new republic about team romney's internal polling. says the biggest flaw in their polling was the failure to predict the demographic composition of the electorate. the people who showed up to vote on november 6 were younger and less white than team romney anticipated and far more democratic as a result. so i want to ask you, erick, is this sort of a misunderstanding generally that republicans have to address the next time they go into an election about who the voters are going
that. this is why president obama extend the tax rates for a year action because he said this could hurt the economy. here we are again. we're not anywhere different than we were last year really. >> gregg: donna, dick durbin, the senate's number two democrat, said that social security is off the table because i'm going to quote him here -- it does not add a penny to our deficit. that's ludicrus. >> i think that i'm unable to comment because i think the context may have something to do with the sense of lock box and where this money actually comes from and where it sits in the meanwhile before it gets spent. but i also think it's awfully important to remember that in terms of republican cooperation, the president really has been i think very sincere about seeking that cooperation and initially speaker boehner i think expressed with great sincerity his interest in cooperation. i dare say that there has been a lot of biplay among both the senators and the house members on what that cooperation is going to look like. but i do think it's awfully important that we not come out of this pr
obama was president -- she pays a lower rate than she did for the past 60 years. guest: in terms of the retroactive application --there is a possibility we could come back in january and say we will reinstate those tax rates for everybody except those people making more than $250,000. host: we have about 30 seconds. the likelihood these credits will be reduced. guest: it will be a crapshoot. host: steven sloan from politico. thank you. [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2012] >> tomorrow, robert van order looks at the mortgage loan forgiveness. then bradford fitch discuss this orientation session for congress. members- elect in congress. after that, a member of the autistic self advocacy network on being an adult with autism, and the federal role supporting autistic adults and children. washington journal, live saturday at 7:00 a.m. eastern, on c-span. coming up, we will hear about the syrian civil war from a spokesman with the national coalition for a position, followed by a look at how the white house and c
, not rates, and somewhat ideological, somewhat practical position on the obama side saying we can't get to $1.6 trillion without doing rates. now, we're not going to get to $1.6 trillion, so it becomes academic. >> can we get to $1.2 trillion where i think and others think we're going to end up without raising the rates? >> you can do it mathematically. it works. you can write laws that do it. the question you have to say to yourself, do you want to start eliminating charitable deductions for state and local taxes, for charitable, for health care, even, for retirement funds? in other words, do you really want to turn people's behavior kind of inside-out almost overnight by changing the way taxes work so quickly? >> mark, you're as plugged in as anybody in washington right now. are these guys talking to each other in a real, meaningful way? i know they put out the information that the president talked to john boehner yet, but are there real behind-the-scenes intense negotiations as we're now four weeks away from this thing? >> in talking to people so both sides yesterday, they had the identica
that create jobs, they are in the 2% of small businesses. they would pay higher rates that president obama is proposing. it would be a direct hit on job creation. and over and talk about raising tax rates at the top, it is not because we are worried about whether the rich can buy an extra vote. we are worried about their ability to invest in the economy. host: let's hear from mary in topeka, kansas. caller: i had a couple of comments. and then maybe let them answer. one, a republican, but i guess i'm not a very loyal one because at this point, between the republicans and the democrats, i am totally fed up with what comes across on the national news. both sides seem to be spinning the truth into lies for their own political gain. we need a solution that is not 25 years away. but i do not know how it is going to be done when the president -- and as far as i can see, he has not even sat down for a talk that lasts more than an hour or so. he has other people doing is talking and expects the republicans to try to make a deal. you cannot make a deal with a third party and then have a first party
're going to protect middle class families, then we're going to have to have higher rates for the wealthiest americans, folks like me. >> read his lips, no deal without a tax increase on the richest in this country. and get this, president obama is winning this argument. remember the anti-tax pledge? 44 republicans had distanced themselves from it. today conservative columnist david brooks says, republicans have to realize they're going to have to cave on tax rates. and conservative writer byron york writes, quote, republicans will cave. part of the reason for the shift is the president is staying strong on this issue. he did just -- he did that to just now and won an election. also, americans are saying clearly who they blame if the two sides don't reach a deal before the end of the year. take a look at this. a new poll shows republicans will take the blame if a deal isn't reached and we go over the fiscal cliff. 53% say it's on republicans. half that, 27%, will blame the president. this is progress. this is change. if president obama can break republicans on tax increases, this could redef
to the country's credit rating in the new year. each day toward the fiscal cliff is also another day closer to the country maxing out on its borrowing limit. president obama talked to business leaders today. >> the only thing that the debt ceiling is good for as a weapon is to destroy your credit rating. >> reporter: he's worried republicans may re newsto raise the country's debt ceiling to get their way on spending cuts and risk defaulting on the country's loans. >> that is a bad strategy for america. it's a bad strategy for your businesses. and it is not a game that i will play. >> reporter: republicans are pushing back. >> he's the president, not the emperorer. >> reporter: fiscal cliff negotiations have been at a stand still since monday when republicans proposed raising revenue by closing tax loopholes, not by raising rates on the rich as the president has insisted. >> we're not insisting rates just out of spite, but rather because we need to raise a certain amount of revenue. >> we can't just keep borrowing money, raising taxes, and expecting the problem to go away. >> reporter: house
was willing to get more revenue. >> bob: 2% of the -- >> dana: hold on. >> andrea: one credit rating agency said if the democrats get their way, which is not fixing the problem, we will be downgraded again. should the republicans let president obama own that? >> brian: unbelievably disappointed. you did not characterize, you must be on some level, bob, disappoint. the president is doing what he did for the four years. his way or the highway. this is the quote from the "washington post." offer lacked any concession for republicans at the core issue of where to set the tax rate. i thought this is going to be a debate between 35-3%. and as deal gets done, roll up sleeves. this offer is insulting. i am not going to deal with you. >> the top 2% since 1986. >> they can't say the republicans holding out on the top 2%. >> the republicans want spending cuts. republicans realize -- >> they offer, i think obama is offering $500 million -- [ overtalk ] >> dana: critical count -- >> eric: the democrats realize that they have to touch spending if they want the 2%. >> brian: i want the power to raise the
worth having, but as a rule, the lower the rate, the better for investment, the better for job growth. in terms of medicare and medicaid, you will see for upper-income under obama-care, that has been done. if you make over $250,000, if you will pay a tax. -- you will pay a tax to fund that thing. the democrats and an enormously new program that has $600 billion of taxes over a decade that are beginning to kick in. if you go to a tanning salon, if you buy a wheelchair, there will be taxes, and if you are a high- income investor, you will already hit with taxes. host: are those of included and budget proposals? guest: we think some of these things should be open for negotiation, but we lost the election, so the president will not do a full repeal. having said that, there are areas we have worked on before, trying to get rid of 1099 forms, and democrats said that was a dumb idea, and the president signed that repeal. we will continue to work, but this thing is a backer fiscally for the country or the next decade and that will become progressively more evident. host: linda. your honor wit
? >> well, i just think the parties are too far apart. if president obama wants republicans to agree not only to allow the top tax rates to go up, but also put a new millionaire surtax, new stimulus funding, there's no way republicans do that without many entitlement reform. i think the democrats are prepared to allow, and that's why i just think that i agree with the congressman. i think that we are likely not to get a deal before the beginning of the year. >> but do you think it was a senator lindsey graham indicated there at the beginning, do you think it was a political calculation or is a political calculation on the part of the white house? >> well, i think there are political calculations being made by everybody in washington right now, but i don't think it's a secret that the democrats believe, in a lot of cases, that they have the upper hand in the p.r. war over this issue. >> perry, this is grover norquist just a few hours ago on "meet the press." take a listen. >> every republican who had impure thoughts about maybe i could raise taxes a little because the other guys will
and they reset the rates -- the lady from kentucky talk about how obama had raised her taxes. she has gotten more tax breaks since obama was president -- she pays a lower rate than she did for the past 60 years. guest: in terms of the retroactive application --there is a possibility we could come back in january and say we will reinstate those tax rates for everybody except those people making more than $250,000. host: we have about 30 seconds. the likelihood these credits will be reduced. guest: it will be a crapshoot. host: steven sloan from politico. walking in the other series about what may be affected because of the fiscal cliff. [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2012] >> president obama spoke about the fiscal cliff today. later in the day, house speaker john boehner responded to the president's comments. you can both of them starting at 8:00 p.m. eastern on c-span. tomorrow came a memorial service for warren rudman who died earlier this month. we will hear remarks from vice- president joe biden and several others as t
. stuart: well, wait a minute you cannot rewrite economic history. after george bush lowered tax rates the return to the treasury, the money coming into the treasury went way up and the deficit, by the way, in 2007 was 167 billion dollars. >> so. stuart: president obama has got, 167 billion a month just about. don't rewrite economic history, julie. >> i'm not rewriting economic history. stuart: you are. >> i'm not-- >> i'm telling you if you lower tax rates you'll get more revenue. >> that's how do you it. >> i think history showed whether it's ronald reagan or-- >> ronald reagan, george w. bush and-- >> your a telling me that ronald reagan was not increasing deficits. stuart: ronald reagan increased-- >> here is what we're arguing about, you lower tax rates, you get more revenue. >> stuart. stuart: that's a lesson of economic history. >> stuart, i'm sorry. stuart: it is. >> the lesson of the reagan years and bush years, you-- >> it's factually true that when you lower rates, ronald reagan did it, dramatic lower of rates, the revenue to the treasury doubled in five years. that's true.
with president obama to move forward in preserving the tax rates for the middle-class. as the chairman just said, for everyone, including warren buffett, ross perot -- they would get tax relief for the first $250,000 of their income as well. you hear some republicans collin this pledge handcuffs that keep them from moving forward. we would hope in the short periodically have before december 31, we would not let a pledge to a special interest supersede the pledge of allegiance to make to our country. finally, once again, the american people are way ahead of the politicians. the american people by two- thirds agree with president obama that we must have a balanced approach to solving deficit issues and moving toward economic growth and job creation. two-thirds. if they were a vote by the american public today, there would be a landslide in favor of providing for the 2% wealthiest americans to pay a little more in taxes to help them get to the point of a balanced approach. a landslide victory. including republicans in america who agree with that. there is no reason to delay. we think we can move fo
the cliff and turnaround and they reset the rates -- the lady from kentucky talk about how obama had raised her taxes. she has gotten more tax breaks since obama was president -- she pays a lower rate than she did for the past 60 years. guest: in terms of the retroactive application --there is a possibility we could come back in january and say we will reinstate those tax rates for everybody except those people making more than $250,000. host: we have about 30 seconds. the likelihood these credits will be reduced. guest: it will be a crapshoot. host: steven sloan from politico. thank you. [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2012] >> tomorrow on washington journal, and a look at the mortgage debt relief act, which was passed by congress in the early days of the housing crisis, and a discussion of orientation sessions for senior aides and aides of members- elect in congress. and a member of the autistic and advocacy network on being an adult with autism, and the federal role in supporting autistic adults and children. wash
of that would be a refusal by republicans to accept the rates that are going to have to go up on wealthiest americans. i don't really see them doing that. >> nbc news white house correspondent, mike viquiera joining me now. treasury secretary timothy geithner, president obama's point man in these fiscal cliff negotiations, ran the gauntlet this morning. he appeared on all five sunday talk shows, including "meet the press" of course, what else did he say? >> craig, you know if we're in the posturing stage and a lot of people think we're still in the posturing stage with, 29 or 30 days to go. we better hope that they're just posturing, because after the period of optimism, the post-election talk of compromise, you remember john boehner came out the day after the election, the president spoke about compromise as well. they're as far apart as they ever have been and the clock is ticking. what timothy geithner said is as follows, nothing is going to get done unless republicans agree to raise rates on the wealthiest 2% of americans we know the figure by now. those couples filing jointly making mo
in the top 2% tax rate. --wasn't ended the year deal it was an end-of-the-year deal. the obama administration was looking for the stimulus measure. they thought it would be hard for republicans to oppose a tax cuts. host: the money rigidly was going where -- the money originally was going where? guest: going to the social security trust >> we take you live now to the u.s. capitol and house speaker john boehner. >> the president has warned us about the dangers of going over the fiscal cliff. but his actions have not matched his public statements. momings of his own party seem quite comfortable on sending the economy over the fiscal cliff. two weeks ago we had a very productive conversation at the white house. based on where we stand today i would say two things. first, despite the claims that the president supports a balanced approach, the democrats have yet to get serious about real spending cuts. and secondly, no substantive progress has been made in the talks between the white house and the house over the last two weeks. this is not a game. jobs are on the line. the american economy is on t
. president obama had a specific proposal to raise the rates to the clinton-era rates on the top 2%. there was a majority of republicans on exit polls who agreed with that. second, on the $1.1 trillion in entitlement cuts, that's really a bad idea. because what he's doing that is approaching by slashing benefits rather than reforming the system. i'll give you an example. we have to save money in health care not just in medicare but health care but we pay more, more than most countries, and we get less. here's an example of a reform. right now in medicare, when we buy prescription drugs, we buy wholesale but we pay retail and the law requires us to pay retail. whereas in the v.a., in medicaid, we do price discounts when we're purchasing. if we did that in medicare that would save us $160 billion a year. so what i'd like to see is us save money on health care. we need to do that. but it's got to be through system reform. host: can you save enough money through system reform without looking at benefits? guest: you know, you got to start there, because you really don't want to be sayin
to the fiscal cliff, but feel very strongly we've got to get serious here. we don't want to increase tax rates. we're not going to increase tax rates. >> warner: a white house spokesman shot back that republicans ought not to be surprised that mr. obama is sticking to his guns. and congressional democrats, like house minority leader nancy pelosi, welcomed the president's plan. >> elections have consequences. the president campaigned-- he made it very clear, he made it very clear that he was supporting a tax cut for the middle class, that he wanted the expiration of the tax cuts for the high end. and the american people know that debate, they voted for him. >> warner: still, despite all the tough talk, reporter todd zwillich of wnyc and public radio international says there's more movement behind the scenes than meets the eye. >> there does tend to be a pattern to how big negotiations like this go. the fact that they haven't reached an agreement yet doesn't mean they won't before christmas, doesn't mean they won't before new years. there is a value in doing some public posturing and trying to g
to hold middle class tax cuts hostage simply because they don't want tax rates on upper income folks to go up. all right? that doesn't make sense. >> reporter: mr. obama's opening bid includes $1.6 trillion in new revenue, about half coming from higher rates for the wealthy. 600 billion in cuts to domestic programs like medicare. and 50 billion in new infrastructure spending. when treasury secretary tim geithner went to the capitol and laid out the plan for a senate republican leading mitch mcconnell, aides on both sides said mcconnell burst out in laughter. with talks now entering the final month, house republicans offer add more somber assessment. >> we're not interested in playing rope a dope. >> it was not a serious proposal. and so right now we're almost nowhere. >> reporter: so alex the clock is ticking. the president's public campaign trying to pressure john boehner, eric cantor and their charges in their house republican conference continues. he meets with governors this week here at the white house to talk about this time and more meetings with ceos, this is in the form of the bus
medicare. in return, the gop would agree to more tax revenues but not higher rates. what is your response to mr. mcconnell? >> nothing new in that statement from his mitch mcconnell. no. thank you. [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2012] ♪ president obama spoken in manufacturing company. this is about 20 minutes. >> good morning, everybody. please have a seat. have a seat. relax for a second. it is good to see all of you. hello. it is good to be back in pennsylvania. and eight is good to be right here -- and it is good to be right here. i want to thank michael, robert, and the investor, joel glickman for hosting me today and giving me a great tour. stand up so everybody can see you, guys. [cheers and applause] there you go. we have a couple of outstanding members of congress here. [cheers and applause] now, i just finished getting a tour of the workshop. i have to say it makes me wish that joel invented this stuff sooner when i was a kid. back then, you couldn't build a roller coaster out of your erector set. i got
trial. >> when president obama was re-elected it was the heist unemployment rate since franklin dell another roosevelt. high unemployment isn't the only reason it is like 1937. joining us now to explain why is amity slave she is the director of the bush institute for 4 percent growth project author of the fourth coming book on coolidge. i can't wait to read that. 1937 looking a lot like 2013. how so? you broke it down by 4 different points. number one you say preelection spending that sets records. explain why this is one of the major problems? >> you call 1936 was an election year like this year. they spent a lot. they spent a record amount. 1936 interestingly was the first year in peace time that the federal government was bigger than the states. america the states and towns used to be the big government and the federal government was a pygmy. that changed in 36. roosevelt campaigning made that great. this past year we spent a record share of the economy as well. that's the first one. >> number two off the list is the cold water afterward after the election? >> it is appropriate. i
middle income tax cut to the floor. >> reporter: later on today president obama will say that any deal reached in congress must include increased tax rates on the wealthiest americans. he will say that at a factory in hatfield, pennsylvania, where the company connects, makes tinker toys. that is company the white house picked for today's event because they rely on the middle class consumers who would be affected if we go off the fiscal cliff. martha. martha: that will be a major sticking point it sounds like. peter, thank you very much. bill: so what happens if your taxes or to your taxes if lawmakers don't strike a deal? the tax policy center says that 90% of the americans would see a tax hike next year in 2013. it says 121 million americans will be paying more in payroll taxes, and families making between 40 and $65,000 a year, will pay an extra $2,000 to the government. that starts in 2013. martha: some say that they're concerned that what happens in europe could also happen here down the road. look at europe's economy down the road. 11.7% unemployment. that is another record high i
, listen, from obama's opening offer, i was able to salvage the estate tax rates. i was able to salvage the dividends tax rates. i was able to shave off 400 to $500 billion in tax hikes that the president wanted. and on top of that, i was able to secure a promise to do comprehensive tax reform within a year. all from the president's first offer. wouldn't that be at least a little bit palatable to some of the republicans in the caucus? >> i think your word choice is perfect, a little bit palatablp. >> that's all they need. >> the attitude of let's make specific concessions now with regard for other concessions to come down the road, that player to be named later you hear about in trades. i think you're going to get enormous apt of skepticism in the house gop caucus to that. because they feel they've seen this movie before. when you were showing the footage of durbin and boehner, i thought it was footage from the debt ceiling argument. >> but isn't the better alternative which is to see all the tax cuts he e s expire? >> how will he pass the massive obama tax cut without the house? >> i'm
:00 eastern here on c-span. and following that, today's events op the fiscal cliff with president obama and house speaker john boehner. the president said in remarks to the business round table today that he was aware of reports that republicans may be willing to agree to higher tax rates on the wealthy as a way to avert the looming fiscal cliff and then come back next year with more leverage to extract spending cuts from the white house in exchange for raising the government's borrowing limit. we'll also have house speaker john boehner's news conference today where he said it's time for the white house to respond to monday's republican proposal for avoiding the fiscal cliff. see the president and speaker boehner tonight at 9:00 eastern. elsewhere on the hill today the senate appropriations committee on homeland security held a hearing on fema's response to hurricane sandy. senators from new york, rhode island, connecticut and delaware testified before the committee on the challenges their constituents face in the aftermath of the storm and what's needed to move forward. >> good morning
split or the fiscal cliff because president obama's plan to avoid the fiscal cliff is not exactly flying with republicans. 32 days now count with me 32 tax rates soar, spending cuts automatically kick in and keep in mind there is a date that we're watching also before this, congress break for the holidays in all of 14 days. >> so to review the president's plan calls for $1.6 trillion in tax hikes, $50 billion in new stimulus spending, and $400 billion in unspecified cuts. the president for himself he's heading to a manufacturing plant in pennsylvania today to try to sell that idea. house speaker john boehner's reaction was essentially, get serious. so we want to talk about the numbers behind this. we're going to bring in ken rogoff, professor of economics and public policy at harvard university. you heard the specifics of the plan, $1.6 trillion in new taxes, $400 billion in unspecified cuts, $50 billion in new stimulus. how does this sound to you? >> well, it certainly sounds like a plan. and i do think we have to see some mix of higher revenues starting now and frankly going on into th
. spending cuts. >> the white house drew its own line in the sand and said tax rates must go up on the top earners, but -- >> the middle-class tax cut should be made permanent. >> president obama stayed out of the fiscal cliff discussions and sat down for lunch with former rival mitt romney. >> i am sure they will or have already compared experiences on the campaign trail. >> today president obama hits the road to push for his plan to avoid the fiscal cliff. but republicans have slammed him for campaign-style politics that they say just won't get the job done. rob and sunny, back to you. >> can you really imagine that they're not going to reach some sort of deal to avoid the fiscal cliff? i mean that would be so unpopular across the nation. >> you would -- if you can take an action that would solve the problem for 98% of the country and then come back to the debate about the wealthiest 2%, let's get that first chunk done. republicans fear they could lose leverage if they cave in on the middle-class issue. apparently the president, his team has made increased demand here including, a provis
it more economically viable, he just wants to raise rates and punish folks more. let me go, mr. speaker, to president barack obama, august, 2009. he says this in an interview. the last thing you want to do is to raise taxes in the middle of a recession. because that would just take more demand out of the economy and put businesses in a further hole. president barack obama, august, 2009. he was absolutely right then. those facts hold true today. it's not just those facts hold true over a small period of time, mr. speaker. those facts hold true over a decade. john kennedy's quotes, president john f. kennedy, i just want to take you back, mr. speaker, it's not as if these are new ideas we are talking about. this isn't some rocket science problem that's suddenly been thrust upon the united states of america in 2012. these are basic economics. adam smith talked about these years ago. this is in one of john f. kennedy's news conference in 1962 as he was providing the largest tax cut in modern american history he said this, he said it's a paradoxical truth that tax rates are too high and tax r
and capital income. under the president's preferred tax policy, the top rate would go from 35% to 49.9% for ordinary income -- and for ordinary income from 15% to 25%. the long-term consequences of president obama's tax policies would have a profound and negative affect. capital stock would be dollar -- would fall. fewer jobs and lower wages resulting in higher taxes would harm the middle class. data reveals three important facts of high income earners. the taxes on the wealthy raise as much faster than on everyone else during economic booms, but they also fall much faster during economic bust. people bit more income when tax rates are low and not when they are -- report more income when tax rates are low and not when they are high. there are better ways to increase federal revenues than hiking tax rates. congress could enact a program of tax reform that would lower rates and eliminate interest reductions. the president could open up more federal lands and offshore areas for energy exploration. his administration could take a more balanced approach to new regulations. economic growth
excess thoughts. okay. all right. the president on this whole fiscal cliff. >> obama: i don't think it is acceptable for you for a handful of republicans in congress to hold middle class tax cuts hostage simply because they don't want tax rates on upper income folks to go up. >> stephanie: uh, yeah! let's go to kathy in mobile, alabama. >> mobile. >> caller: actually, it is mobile. i know you're not from the south. something i've heard recently which is totally stupid was someone made the comment that normally we only work 25 years and then we live only 40 years after that. a. >> stephanie: right. >> caller: which is crazy. if you started at 18, you reach retirement at 43 or even if you start working at 35. >> stephanie: this is something grover norquist said yesterday. i'm like who only works 25 years? math is -- that's what the president said. republicans have to stop using political math to say how much they're willing to raise tax rates on the wealthiest 2% and specify the spending cuts. they're
president obama's proposal which includes a $1.6 trillion tax increase, a $50 billion economic stimulus package and new power to increase the debt ceiling without congressional approval. the offer featured higher tax rates for households making over $250,000 a year. a one year postponement of the sequester and about $400 billion in savings over ten years for medicare and other entitlement programs. >> despite the claims that the president supports a -- >> thousand is the time fnow is republicans to move past the happy talk about revenues, ill defined, of course, and put specifics on the table. the president has made his proposal. we need a proposal from them. >> today president obama is taking his pitch on the road. he will be visiting the philadelphia suburbs employing campaign style tactics in hopes of mobilizing the public to his side. he'll be speaking at a manufacturing facility arguing that businesses it depend on middle class consumers over the holiday season. despite all this, you see the futures today indicating higher. dow up by about 35. does that surprise you guys? >> no, i
romney lost. obama won. the american people are very clear. that at a time when the middle class is disappearing and the people on top are doing phenomenally well and as warren buffett mind us, their effective tax rate is quite low. the wealthy are going to have to start paying their fair share of taxes. and i am happy to report to you what you already know. is that more and more republicans are catching on to that fact. >> but the republicans did maintain a significant majority in the house of representatives and it takes two to tango. >> absolutely. but i think the republicans are also good politicians. they have seen the polls, they have seen the election results and more and more republicans have been saying, you know what, we're going to have to ask our wealthy friends to start paying their fair share of taxes and do what we did in the senate, which is protect the bottom idea. >> but you're not open to any cuts in entitlement spending? >> well, first of all, social security, as most americans know -- >> what about medicare and medicaid? >> what you can do withmedicaid a lot
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